CHATTERTON
23 August 2024
Dallas, Texas
Katya Zakar: What’s up y’all, this is Katya and I’m here with…
Brock Pierce: Chatterton!
Zakar: Introduce your names and what instruments you play.
Pierce: I’m Brock, I play guitar.
David Rodriguez: I’m David, I play guitar.
Logan Scrivner: I’m Logan and I play drums.
Zakar: We got a member in the back and he’s trying to be a popular loner for some reason, come on in!
Pierce: Cameron’s on his phone in the back.
Zakar: Come on in, come join us! You’re playing on this tour too.
Cameron Esmaili: I’m Cameron and I’m filling in on bass.
Zakar: So you guys are from LA, or Oxnard.
Pierce: Yeah, both work, they’re close enough.
Zakar: I actually saw you guys play a show in LA, it was my first introduction to your music. It was the Julie house show with Triple Gem and I really loved it. I had to jump the fence since the owners said it was at capacity, but I was wondering who sounded really good as I was entering, and it was you guys. So I quickly thought to find your social medias and saved your music to my phone.
Zakar: So I did want to ask you guys, what happened to the suits? You guys used to wear suits for shows.
[Scrivner laughs]
Pierce: Suits have been a hot topic this tour but I don’t know if we could have pulled them off this time around because they could’ve gotten so nasty…
Scrivner: Especially in Texas.
Pierce: But I like the suits, we were just talking about them and we think suits are fun, we think suits always look nice.
Pierce: Hopefully we’ll bring them back, sometimes we feel like we’re acting a little too pretentious with the suits, but..
Zakar: We got The Dare though, right? You guys did it before him, so…
Scrivner: There you go.
Pierce: [laughs] That’s true, he’s coming for our image!
Zakar: You guys are trailblazers already!
Zakar: But really, is it your first time in Texas?
Pierce: I have family in Texas, or at least I used to, so I’ve been here when I was younger.
Scrivner: I’ve been here on a tour before, so just once.
Rodriguez: I have family here but I’ve never visited them..
[Pierce laughs]
Zakar: Oh, that’s not nice!
Rodriguez: Yeah, it's kind of mean but it is my first time here.
Zakar: But this is your first US-Wide tour?
Pierce: Yeah, yeah
Zakar: How has that been?
Pierce: Day three, we’re not burnt yet, we got that youthful energy. In a few more weeks we’re going to be husks.
Zakar: That first tour glow! How many more tour dates do you guys have?
Pierce: 25? 26?
Scrivner: [In terms of] actual shows we have like 19, but we got around 25 left.
Zakar: What’s tomorrow?
Pierce: Norman, Oklahoma; it’s a college town.
Zakar: Good luck to you guys; I’ve never heard of that town before, but more power to them and you!
Pierce: It could be a movie.
Zakar: Speaking of movies, you guys had your last interview at Braindead Studios in LA, so you must know quite a bit [about them].
Zakar: What are your top five favorite movies?
Rodriguez: I’m actually so badly versed in movies, let’s see if I can name five.
Pierce: I like The Graduate and [All About] Lily Chou Chou.
Rodriguez: Magnolia is a really good movie, it’s one of my favorites, directed by Paul Thomas Anderson I think? There’s this animated movie from Japan called Mind Game. It was really really good, an existential crisis kind of movie.
Rodriguez: I can’t remember the name of it, but there’s a movie with Don Cheadle and Adam Sandler and Adam Sandler’s [character’s] family died in 9/11, so he tries to navigate grief. Don Cheadle’s character comes in as an old classmate and they rekindle their relationship. It’s very very wholesome, that was really good. But that’s all I can think of off the top of my head.
Pierce: I didn’t even know Adam Sandler was in a 9/11 movie, respect. I didn’t know he’d make something so heavy.
Zakar: Neither did I.
Pierce: Logan and Cameron are now in charge of packing up the car before we get kicked out of here, so they’re stressing.
[Pierce laughs]
Zakar: They look so sad. Well, I’ll ask you guys questions in the meantime.
Zakar: What’s your most cursed tour stop as of now, or ever?
Pierce: This is our first tour as of now, but El Paso last night was a disaster. In a sense where the band was so sweet, but no one showed up. Literally no one showed up, so we played to the bands, but they still stuck around even though they had work in the morning. They paid us out of pocket even though we refused.
Rodriguez: Yeah, it’s very rare that we play to no one except for the bands on our bill.
Pierce: It’s a very humbling experience.
Zakar: I still can’t believe it, I thought you were joking when you first said that you played to an empty room.
Pierce: Yeah, and the night before, in Phoenix, it was a really good show, it had a lot of people. And then the next one there’s immediately nothing and empty as fuck.
Rodriguez: I thought it would set the tone for us, but then we get to El Paso, and we pull up, and it’s an empty-ass venue, like, yo, are we supposed to be here?
Zakar: It’s ok, because, like, Oklahoma, I don’t know what to tell you. You know what? Maybe it could be like El Paso tomorrow, maybe you’ll have a huge crowd.
Pierce: It’s always weird, it’s always hit or miss. You never know, fingers crossed. It would be nice to have at least one person in the crowd, just not another empty room, please. I can’t do it.
Zakar: In the time that you guys have been travelling between cities, do you guys have a tour playlist, do you alternate which person gets aux, or do you guys just listen to your own things?
Pierce: We’ve been using Spotify queue, it’s been good.
Rodriguez: Usually one person will take charge and then we’re all going to pass the phone around and queue up some stuff. I think we only listen to one album?
Pierce: Yeah we do. Should we say it?
Zakar: Yeah, please!
Pierce: We listen to the MJ Lenderman album, the new one. And the new Fontaines D.C. album, that was great.
Rodriguez: I'm more of a fan of the MJ Lenderman, that was really good.
Pierce: That’s the one front to back we have been listening to.
Zakar: In general, though, do you guys have any music recommendations? Because after all, we are a radio station, we love new music.*
Zakar: What have you guys been bumping at home, or in your free time?
Pierce: Christopher Owens; he used to be in Girls, he just came out with a new single.
Pierce: Girls is like this 2010s indie rock band from San Francisco; I’ve been listening to them since middle school and I fucking love them. And he just released that single called “No Good,” and I love that song and Christopher Owens.
Rodriguez: Yeah, there’s this band from the 90s that Brock and I have talked about called the Raymond Brake. Really cool indie rock, I don’t know where they’re from.
Pierce: Maybe the Midwest to be safe, let’s say that.
Rodriguez: A really really good indie slacker rock, like if you like Polvo and Archers of Loaf, it’s like a nice in-between. But I really recommend that.
Zakar: Brock, you were talking about middle school earlier. What was it like growing up in Oxnard?
Pierce: Well….[winces]
Zakar: [Laughs]
Pierce: It was, you know, it was Oxnard. I live in the Port Hueneme area, like this place called Silver Strand, which is like a big surfer town, but I don’t surf.
Pierce: So, you know, it was kind of chill but there were no kids there doing stuff that I was into, so I would just play video games a lot. But yeah, I do have my gripes with it because I’ve lived there my whole life but it still has a charm to it.
Rodriguez: Oxnard, like Brock said, it’s got a nice charm to it. We both [in the band] are the only ones who grew up there our entire lives. I also live in the Port Hueneme area. Before that, I was in Downtown Oxnard, living in a neighborhood full of a bunch of old people, so there were no kids in my area.
Rodriguez: In my school, I only had about 30 classmates all the way until high school, so I played a lot of video games that time. I’d [still] say [Oxnard’s] a cool city. Obviously since we lived there our whole lives, we have our gripes with the place, but that goes for anyone who lives in their hometown and is trying to leave it.
Rodriguez: You’ll always find something you don’t like about it, but thinking about it, you’ll be going to all these places in Texas and think, “It’s hot as shit over here,” but the weather in Oxnard is amazing year-round. That’s the one good thing I’ll say about Oxnard.
Zakar: What video games did you guys play?
Pierce: A lot of Valve, Garry’s Mod, CS:GO, Left 4 Dead, honestly like all of those source games.
Pierce: I really loved Earthbound, I’m playing that on the road right now. It’s making me carsick because there’s a lot of text, but I like those types of games.
Rodriguez: Kind of the same thing as Brock, I grew up on a lot of valve games. Portal, Portal 2; those were the first games I bought with my own money, so I always found those games to be so cool.
Rodriguez: CounterStrike 2, Team Fortress 2, Ratchet and Clank, Super Monkey Ball, Ape Escape…Ape Escape is so amazing. But aside from that, I grew up playing Crash Bandicoot and a lot of platforming games on my PlayStation.
Zakar: You guys mentioned you played CS:GO; вы говорите по Русски?
Pierce: Nah, but what I learned from CS:GO was to never argue with a Russian player in the game, like, as a 12 year old playing CS:GO, they will tell you off. And if you try to fight back, your ass is going to learn some lessons and you’ll learn to stay out of [conflict]. I got humbled a lot of times by a lot of really good Russian players who had a bone to pick with how bad I was at that game. Russians will whoop my ass at that game, a million times.
Rodriguez: That’s true. I learned a few Russian cuss words, obviously. Like сука, сука блять..I still don’t even know what that means but I don’t even want to try to assume what it means.
Zakar: [Laughs] I’ll tell you; it means “fucking bitch.”
Rodriguez: Yeah, that’s like the main one I heard. But aside from that, they’re crazy at that game and their microphones are so loud, you can hear them slam on the desk and their keyboard breaks, or you can hear a dog barking in the background too, it’s pretty funny. Lots of Argentinians on that game too, they get active.
Pierce: Yes, also a lot of Cali-heads since you'll get a lot of people in the area when you play sometimes. There’s some crazy motherfuckers.
Pierce: We tricked one guy who left his location and full name on his Steam profile; it had way too much information [about him].
Pierce: He was from a small town, so we looked up the [schools from that small town] and asked him if he was Brandon from this school. And he was like, “...Yeah?” And then we did this thing where we pretended we went to elementary school with him and asked if he remembered us, and he said “Yeah, oh my god!”
Zakar: Y’all do a little trolling.
Pierce: Always gotta troll. I’m the trolling gamer.
Rodriguez: We do a little trolling.
Zakar: Yeah Brock, you’re a little tech savvy to say the least; you’ve been on everything.
Pierce: Oh shit..what have you seen of my digital footprint?
Zakar: We do a little digging, we do a little stalking!
Pierce: Did you find the chaos videos?
Zakar: I did, they were fun. Are you making them again?
Pierce: Are you talking about the untitleds?
Zakar: Yes!
Pierce: Yes, I am making another one. I’m editing it slowly and I have my camera in my bag, it died tonight. I was going to film tonight and wanted to film all of Texas’ sets and Skirts, but it died.
Pierce: But I’m filming for tour, I’m editing it. The hard drive I was keeping it on got corrupted, so I’ve been trying to get it fixed because I really don’t want to start over.
Pierce: That’s cool that you found that, thanks for checking them out.
Zakar: Of course. And you also founded 7th Heaven Records; how has it been balancing between being a musician and owning a label?
Pierce: It’s been hell on Earth. Even on this tour, before I left, I shipped out like 400 orders, and I have a lot of catching up to do. I have a lot left, but I’ve already shipped out a lot.
Pierce: Some of the packages are on the way. They’re in transit, but some people are mad that their orders haven’t arrived yet, even though they haven’t checked tracking.
Pierce: I get it, because the vinyls took a long time, since they got stuck at customs, but you know, it can be hell.
Pierce: Support small labels, but don’t be crazy. Some guy went on this rant, we restocked Pasteboard and did 300 copies, which is max. I won’t do over 300 copies at a time because I’m not gonna get stuck for a month shipping 600 copies. I’m fine to restock it in small amounts.
Pierce: But this guy was like, in all caps, “YOU’RE A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT! FUCK YOU! THIS SHIT IS SOLD OUT, FUCK YOU SEVENTH HEAVEN! YOU’RE A FUCKING ASSHOLE! ALL I WANTED WAS THIS VINYL AND YOU GUYS CAN’T EVEN GET A BIG LABEL TO HANDLE THIS, FUCK YOU GUYS!” And it was heavy, I was like, oh shit.
Pierce: And then I restocked, I added 100 copies just to appease this guy, and I know his ass got a copy, so I was trying to cancel his order but I couldn’t find it. His ass got a vinyl at the end of the day.
Zakar: Yeah, there was another label out there that strictly does cassette and vinyl, and they announced that they were quitting or something.
Pierce: Oh wow, I don’t blame them because it’s a horrible side hustle. It’s so time consuming.
Pierce: I graduated in May and walked [the stage] in the Summer. I just finished my summer classes.
Zakar: Congratulations!
Pierce: Thank you. But yeah, I was doing school, bands, work, and Seventh Heaven, and I’m amazed at people’s sense of entitlement.
Zakar: You don’t sleep?
Pierce: Yeah. It’s horrible. I like it, it’s a lot of fun having a label, but it’s a lot of fucking work.
Pierce: You did good digging.
Zakar: Thank you. But oh boy, do I have more questions!
Pierce: What you got?
Zakar: Who’s the breakdancer in the Lakewood video?
[Everyone laughs]
Scrivner: That’s a good one.
Pierce: That’s a really good one.
Zakar: I was looking at it, like, “Hmmm, this is interesting!”
Pierce: Yeah, that’s..[looks at Scribner]....what’s his name?
Scrivner: B-Boy!
Pierce: Bboy_aerstix! He’s a legend, he’s from Japan, we looked up #breakdance on instagram and he was one of the first videos that showed up. Classic. He’s one of the best dancers I’ve ever seen.
Scrivner: He’s one of the best dancers of all time.
Pierce: Yeah, he’s incredible.
Scrivner: [to Pierce] Did you mention that we had to ask him to dance for 5 minutes straight for that?
Pierce: Yeah, we inconsiderately asked him if he could dance for the entire song in one take, and he was like, no.
Scrivner: He said he could only do it for 5 seconds at a time. It was so intense.
Pierce: Yeah, he said he can’t do one take. And I was like yeah, that makes total sense, so we let him record at a pace he was more comfortable with.
Scrivner: And he said it would shake the whole building! He said he has to rent out a building because he shakes buildings when he dances.
[Rodriguez laughs in the distance]
Pierce: But he’s awesome. I told him to do whatever dance moves [he wished], and I wanted him to do some standing poses, reading a book, and some other shit. So I sent him a video of me doing those things so he could copy me, he’s awesome.
LP: He’s a great guy.
Pierce: Normally I think when a person would get a DM like that, they’d be like, “What the fuck?” I’m not breakdancing for some random people. But we sent him a shirt with papyrus font…
Zakar: That’s what I was going to ask you about! You guys have an excellent choice in fonts, that’s the first thing I noticed: you guys make good posters with really good fonts.
Pierce: Thank you.
Zakar: You guys mainly use serif fonts, which feature lettering with tails. What other fonts do you particularly like to choose for your designs?
Pierce: I love Arial and Helvetica.
Zakar: Good meme fonts.
Pierce: Impact! Papyrus.
Rodriguez: Comic Sans!
Scrivner: Low-hanging fruit, but definitely Comic Sans.
Pierce: I think Comic Sans is a good font!
Scrivner: It’s definitely coming back.
Zakar: It’s been back!
Pierce: I think people will be using it unironically again, I think it will have its heyday.
PART 2
Zakar: We got kicked out of the venue because they hate us, but we’re back now.
Pierce: Hawk Tuah! We’re back though, Chatterton is in Dallas. What were we talking about when we were in the venue?
Zakar: What is your musical process like? Walk me through the steps you take along the way, how you guys do things..
Pierce: So for the last album, with the exception of songs like Lakewood and a few others, we had more of a collaborative approach to that. Most of the songs on Fields of This were written at home and then I’d bring them to Logan, and then Logan would put his own spin on it and expand it.
Scrivner: Now for the new songs that we’re working on, we’re more collaborative. Most of the songs were written together, like as a collaborative live band, for the most part. So we have definitely become more collaborative.
Scrivner: Brock’s the one who brings the ideas.
Zakar: Elaborate on that.
Pierce: I mean, like, I bring some variety to the writing process, Logan does a good job at cutting off the fat and adding more interesting things. A lot of stuff starts as shitty acoustic demos at home, now they’re kind of full band, but yeah, they have their roots.
Zakar: Yeah, you guys have been around since 2017, so you have quite some experience and a lot of releases to go off of.
Pierce: Someone tonight told me they loved Hey Sorry, which is an album I made in high school. I turned white as a ghost; that stuff is horrifying for me.
[There was an unhoused individual asking for change during this interview, and all of the members of Chatterton took the time to find their wallets and give them some money]
Pierce: It’s cool that anyone listens to it, and it means a lot, but I definitely get embarrassed and it definitely makes me cringe for sure.
Zakar: I mean, like, obviously, you’ve released and re-released stuff, so I’ll call Fields of This your official “sophomore” album.
Pierce: Right, right.
Zakar: From that, most people definitely experience a sophomore slump. They just crash and burn, but you guys have not experienced that. Every single release has been very good.
Zakar: So how do you prevent the sophomore slump?
Scrivner: Keep it fresh and change the process. If you keep doing the same thing, no matter how good you are, you will burn out.
Pierce: Yeah, for sure. I think if I kept doing the approach of recording stuff on my own, I think it would have stagnated. I don’t think I would have stopped, but I definitely would’ve lost my appeal. So I recommend opening the doors to collaboration.
Pierce: I don’t think I enjoy writing lyrics a lot, and I wouldn’t call myself a great musician. For a while I thought I had to do everything by myself to be considered a real musician. So, coming to terms with the fact that it’s ok to collaborate and let people add their flair to your work goes a long way.
Scrivner: That’s it. You said it.
Zakar: So, Brock, you lean more towards melodies, you lean towards the compositional side, not necessarily the lyricism?
Pierce: I guess it depends. I mean melody is a big part, but sometimes I’ll write songs with a really good instrumental or a really good guitar part that I like. But I just can’t come up with the lyrics that I think sound good, so it gets trashed, or vice versa. Like I’ll find a song with lyrics that are good, but it’s just boring, so it just doesn’t work, but it really depends. You can get both.
Pierce: For me, lyrics are the biggest part. I would much rather release a boring song with good lyrics than a good instrumental with bad lyrics, even though I’ve done that before.
Pierce: There’s many songs I’ve released with really shitty lyrics, some even on Fields of This, some I've kind of aged out of a little bit because they’re older.
Scrivner: Some songs are old. Like some of these [on Fields of This] are about 4-6 years old.
Pierce: Yeah, so they feel a little immature.
Zakar: No, it’s cute! It shows how much you’ve grown as an artist.
Zakar: You mentioned something about collaborating, so, this might be a bit of a generic question, but who would you collaborate with, dead or alive, if you had the chance to?
Pierce: Fuck, that’s such a good question. Honestly, Mark Linkous was such a good producer, like, if he could produce a Chatterton song, that would be so cool. His production on that A Camp album is so good, and he was still around, I would have loved for him to do it. And Steve Albini recently passed.
Zakar: Rest in peace!
Pierce: Rest in peace. We were planning on having him for the future. We found his rates online and it seems like, even for Steve Albini, they were good.
Zakar: Yes! He was against upcharging people for his services.
Pierce: Yeah, that was so cool, when we found out we could record with him for about $800 a day, that was something we considered to do within the next 2 years, maybe if we could do it. But yeah, if he was still around, it would’ve been so cool, because he’s great.
Pierce: He also did that new Sparklehorse, that posthumous one, he’s fucking awesome. Rest in peace to both of them.
Scrivner: That's what I was going to answer. Steve would’ve been the man, he could’ve made our next record pop, but we were too slow.
Scrivner: He did plenty of albums in his time.
Pierce: Yeah, we probably would’ve ruined his KD because he’s produced so many bangers.
Zakar: He could do anything. What’s your favorite work he’s produced?
Pierce: That new Sparklehorse record is fucking good, but In Utero is a classic. I mean, hearing that in high school changed me and changed the way I viewed rock music.
Pierce: The first Slint album, Tweez? Tweez is fucking awesome, I would say In Utero is my favorite though.
Scrivner: The Shellac stuff’s cool. I mean that’s equal parts playing and writing, and producing I guess.
Pierce: Big Black, Songs About Fucking is insane. That album’s crazy.
Scrivner: Yeah.
Pierce: Cameron could probably weigh in.
Zakar: Go ahead, tell us!
Esmaili: I’m a Steve Albini-head. The Jesus Lizard’s Goat is the best album.
Esmaili: I heard he did a Cloud Nothings record and played on his Gameboy the entire time, that’s why the record’s not that good.
Esmaili: Oh, the Joanna Newsom record he did was sick. He’s the goat though, his first band, Rapeman, was sick. Yeah, he’s the goat.
Pierce: Poor name though, although I haven’t listened to it, but I’ve heard it’s good. Controversial of course, as he was.
Zakar: He had his hot takes.
Pierce: He had his hot takes! He had his rough moments, but he reminds me of a Morrissey kind of thing, where they’re almost attracted to controversy.
Esmaili: Circling back to terms of who I’d want us to collaborate with, I probably would’ve said Morrissey.
Pierce: I think Morrissey would fucking bully me, I think he’d probably pick on me. But if anyone would get to be mean, it would probably be Morrissey.
Rodriguez: He’s nice.
Pierce: He seems nice enough. He seems nice to his fans.
Zakar: Allegedly.
Zakar: Well, everyone has hot takes, so what are your hot takes?
Pierce: Oh, shit. My hot takes? I don’t really love Sonic Youth, that gets me a lot of flack. I don’t have a problem with Sonic Youth, it’s just not my thing, but probably the hottest take I got in the basket.
Pierce: I think Elliott Smith’s later stuff outweighs his older stuff. A lot of people don’t think so.
Scrivner: A lot of people don’t accept it, but I think that’s true.
Pierce: I think 1997 was peak though, I will say that, but I like the grander stuff.
Scrivner: I don’t know if I really have any hot takes. At least not on my mind at the moment.
Pierce: We’re lukewarm, we’re chill. We have chill takes.
Zakar: [asking Rodriguez and Esmaili] What about you guys? I know you have something to say.
Rodriguez: I got a lot of hot takes, but Cameron’s the hot take king, really.
Zakar: Go ahead and spill, y’all.
Rodriguez: Music-related, Brock’s not going to like this one, I’m not an Alex G-head, I’m not into Alex G like that. Now the skeletons are out of the closet.
Zakar: Tell us why!
Rodriguez: I just never got into him.
Pierce: That’s ok, that’s cool.
[Rodriguez laughs]
Rodriguez: Brock said it’s cool! But I just never got into him yet, I feel like I’m way too late now, although I know his music’s good.
Zakar: No! It’s never too late.
Esmaili: I got a music one. Killers over The Strokes, and I can also say that bad singers are more interesting to listen to than good singers.
Esmaili: I don’t know, I remember David Byrne once said that it’s hard to listen to a good singer because you don’t believe what they’re saying and that’s pretty true.
Zakar: It doesn’t even have to be music either, by the way, regarding your hot takes.
Pierce: Yeah? Shit, well, Hawk Tuah’s funny, SNL’s goated…
Rodriguez: My hot take is that SNL is not goated.
Pierce: Elon Musk SNL episode? Watch it. Family Guy? Sit your white ass down, watch it.
Zakar: Did you sit your white ass down and listen?
Pierce: Yeah, I take notes. King of the Hill too.
Zakar: King of the Hill is based off of our college city, actually. It’s based off of Plano and Richardson.
Pierce: They actually got propane there?
Zakar: No, mostly industry really. But is there anyone you’d liken yourself to in King of the Hill?
Pierce: Definitely Bobby, that’s an easy one.
Scrivner: I haven’t dedicated my time to watching King of the Hill.
Pierce: Definitely Dale. Maybe Dale?
Rodriguez: I’d say John Redcorn.
Pierce: Peggy, she’s good. Sweet mom.
Zakar: Boomhauer, that’s the goat.
Pierce: He’s goated.
Zakar: Do you have any life mottos?
Pierce: I sound annoyingly motivational, but probably just “Do things,” even though that sounds lame.
Pierce: Sometimes I’ll be too tired to go out and then I’ll try to push myself to do stuff even if I don’t want to. Because you never know if you’ll regret it later. Sometimes I’ll just take my ass home and stay there, but I’ll mostly try to follow it.
Scrivner: I’d say “don’t overthink shit,” but I’m the king of overthinking shit, so I have to learn to live by my own motto right there.
Scrivner: But it’s a good one, it does help.
Pierce: That’s real.
Rodriguez: I got one. Yeah, I just have like a quote, I don’t know who said it, so apologies to whoever said it, but it goes “we live in the memories of our future selves.”
Rodriguez: It keeps you grounded, it keeps you in the moment, especially if you’re going through a rough patch in life. It’s your little saving grace right there.
Rodriguez: So yeah, enjoy your life.
Esmaili: Be nice to people, and leave the world a better place than you came into it. Do favors for people without expecting anything in return.
Esmaili: I’m already being deep 3 days into tour.
Pierce: Yeah, he joined tour at a two weeks’ notice and we just practiced for two weeks, so he saved our ass.
Scrivner: He’s living by his motto, really.
Pierce: He’s living the motto and he’s actually a living example.
Zakar: Any last words? That sounds like a threat.
Pierce: I got a family, let me finish this tour, please don’t kill me.
Pierce: Thanks for chatting and letting us yap like crazy. Thanks for watching and doing your homework, you did some Nardwuar digging.
Zakar: Thank you! I had a lot of fun.
Rodriguez: Hawk
[Esmaili laughs]
Pierce: Flopped!!!!
Pierce: Thank you.
*This was an interview originally conducted on behalf of RadioUTD, but its contents were never published on their website.